What you suggest is altogether too fair and beneficial. Thieves and murderers that run the world would have to change their minds and hearts, and evil couldn't rule the world. You prove there is still hope for the modern world, although "warriors" would need to be on standby to root out the unethical for keeps. We would probably still need regional judges in case any babes need to be cut in half. Self-governance would be more than some could endure, but maybe humanity could just grow up a little.
Yes, and I have issues with it. First it speaks of "democratically" doing things, which I do not support - two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner - and second, it retains power tokens (where Some will have more power than Others, able to buy things and People to Their agenda(s) if They garner enough in some way).
There's working together to solve problems, and if "voting" amongst the Ones working on the problem is the best way to determine the most acceptable solution, then yes. Is there voting on things that define "rules" that Others must follow, no.
in matrix-8, groups of 8 individuals discuss "a problem" and come to some consensus, then elect one member of the 8 to represent their "solution" or "additional critique" - - THEN - - those level 1 electors move to a level 2 group of 8 which represents 64 individuals - - and so on up the chain - - 64X8 (512) for level 3 - - and 512X8 (4,096) for level 4 - - 32,768 for level 5 - - 262,144 for level 6 - - 2,097,152 for level 7 - - 17 million for level 8
I do not think that a defining structure needs to be in place but that all problems must be solved for Ethically by Those who care. If only three People care, why have eight People working on it?
The problem I see with any "constitution" is that it assumes application to everyOne in some area, be it a square block or the planet.
If someOne does not consent, then what?
With a solutocracy, the only "assumptions" are that We are All under the Laws of Ethics (Natural Law), and that People who are affected by a problem can Ethically resolve it.
Ridding society of the need to account for Our energy will solve most of the problems to begin with, so that is My main focus.
o.k... let's try an example of Your problem solving system. A local terrorist group has formed that is destroying property and abusing and assaulting women and children. The local group has several hundred members and there are many partner groups emerging in other communities. They are all run by miserable bastards driven solely by hate and the lust for power and domination.
The problem has been reported locally, regionally and nationally. .. what are we going to do?
The etymology of "villain" can be traced back to the Old French word "vilain," which originally meant a peasant or a commoner. Over time, the term evolved to refer to someone who was considered morally reprehensible or wicked.
Why would One rage when One can live as richly as One chooses, and everyOne is aware of the Laws, which preclude that behavior? And the Ones who do that in this poverty-filled world are statistically insignificant... Surely the rest of Us can solve for the problem of One breaking the Laws.
First... Why would this group form, when everyOne is living as richly as They choose? Why would anyOne follow anyOne unEthical? And if, by some crazy fluke, miserable bastards get enough People willing to be unEthical at Their order (I will doubt that would ever happen in a trillion years...), the rest of Us would stand against the Few and perhaps have a skirmish that would arrest any unEthical Ones, or kill Them if They attack...
But I'm willing to guess We would not have to worry about that.
I'm totally on board with the intention of your proposals. A moneyless system would be far better than the slave system we endure today. But many will not be happy about it. The elite that now benefit from the control system for one. The ones who believe their skill, or fame, or lineage, or whatever, makes them better than common people and therefore more deserving of a superior exclusive lifestyle for another.
Also, there will still be people who have been hurt by others, lovers who get ditched by their partners who desire someone else, people who hold grudges because things didn't go their way, or inter-generational feuds that perpetuate harm, or simply assholes who create havoc because they can't get along with others. All I am saying is that problems will exist as long as human beings exist. To believe in Utopia is foolish.
The useless ELiters are about 0.1% of Us. The Ones who have excellent output will earn fame, lauds, reputation. And those who believe They are "better" again is a small fraction. And Most would likely not choose unEthical behavior...
And yes, there always will be interpersonal issues - but even today, the problems caused where no money is involved is statistically zero.
I never claimed what I suggest is a utopia. There surely always will be problems. But it is leaps, bounds, and wormhole trips better than what We have Now, and as it is founded on Ethically solving for problems...the problems will be Ethically solved for.
Bless you for trying to do the "right" thing. Unfortunately the vast majority of people can not imagine such a society and hence will not support this idea.
Again, I point out, the key is to get free energy tech out in the open. No One has to do anything. 100% of the cost of EVERYTHING is energy. The resources sit here freely, but it takes energy to put them into useful configuration. Add free energy and the price of things will begin to drop as the cost of energy is removed all down the line.
In about 10 years, I estimate, it will be more energy than it's worth to collect the penny for the house (or whatever).
And I will say for sure, once things start costing less, People will develop support for the idea.
First... because Evil exists and will continue to exist whenever people are rejected. If social praise rewards good behaviour in an Ethical society then social criticism and rejection will stimulate Evil behaviour.
So there will still be police and weapons to deal with anti-socialists?
When the psychopaths have no more power than You or Me, how will They affect this "evil" (or as I say, unEthical behavior)? And what police? Organized by whom? And yes, as I say, We had best presume Others armed. As We, Ourselves can be.
Did You know that the cities in the "wild west" where there were no gun restrictions had far less crime that comparable cities in terms of population and industry on the east coast, where They had "gun laws?"
I am not seeing where "social criticism and rejection will stimulate Evil behaviour." 90%+ of Us are good and caring People, and the Few who don't add Betterment, who are grumpy and nasty, deserve any criticism if They are rude to Others. They deserve to be rejected.
Our benevolent form of martial law with a pretend adherence to our Constitutions created the best form of governance on the planet for decades. The BAR attorneys and Bankers from London started this greedy, power hungry malevolent governance we have. That dates to before Rothschild that perfected this evil.
Had it not turned to malevolent we would have remained like frogs in the pan of water. I did until 2014 and the US Navy determined I was very smart at 18. Not so much anymore. It was thought that the force for the malevolent takeover would come from the military and judiciary. It appears to be coming from the medical adherents to the Josef Mengele School of medicine.
On Oregon the fix by the Esquires, many were attorneys, like Frank Benson that corrupted our Oregon Constitution in 1910. When, ARTICLE VII (Amended) was added, unlawfully, to the Constitution. I’m told not all members of the Oregon State Bar know this. The OSB confers the title of nobility, Esquire, to its members. ARTICLE VII (Amended) is the Judiciary clause the judges and attorneys use to defraud the people. It could be that some Sheriffs and police are unaware of this deception. I’m told that some legislators do not know of this fraud upon the people. Many do not even know what a lawful oath and bond of office is.
LEOs ask for legal help from attorneys and judges and get mis and dis information. They are the ones that are aware of the misprision of felony and they continue to perpetrate this evil on us after 113 years. Although, we know the fix was in from the time of Lincoln. The powers that be on Oregon from 1860 corrupted our government when they agreed to the fraud of Matthew Deady and his two state authorized books, containing the lie that Amendment XIII the anti title of nobility amendment was not part of our statehood documents. Doctor, Mister, Gentlemen, Sir, Lady, Lord and Esquire are all titles of nobility not just honorifics. But, it is homage to the British royalty and nobility a deference to our betters. Did you think it was just being polite like you were taught?
So there it is! They are the two major frauds upon the people both to the advantage of the BAR (British Accreditation Registry) the attorneys of the Oregon State Bar and their ilk on Oregon. The people, our Sheriffs, Legislators and others say, “let me ask my attorney.” The fraud is perpetuated. Unfettered advice from Counsel does not include Oregon State Bar members. As, they all have an oath to an ARTICLE VII (Amended) Court. They are registered or unregistered foreign agents. It’s complicated and people turn off and consider important issues. What is for dinner, is the football game on? Our churches become 501 C3 and give their allegiance to the state before God and their congregation. And so it goes.
Yes! We, meaning all of us, should be opposed to the de facto ( page 416 Black's 6th de jure is defined also ) as it is illegal or illegitimate. It self corrects when the Sheriff takes a proper oath to the proper Constitutions with God included. When that office is occupied by a de jure man or woman then law instead of color of law will move across the land and soil. www.orsja.org
This is Notice of your Liability for your deceitful agreements and collusion with the now-bankrupt and defunct UNITED STATES, INC. Your corruption deceives, misleads and defrauds the people – the men, women with their progeny — of their lawful God -given rights! NOTICE OF LIABILITY added to the “Documents-Trials and Oregon Statewide Jural Assembly Court
It Is Generational, my 2 oldest daughters were born in the 50's they comprehend that deception of JFK, RFK, MLK. Both of of my daughters seem to accept the lesser of two evils. I do not, nor do I accept any infringement upon my unalienable rights. I have a BAR attorney Granddaughter that will only speak with me about her daughters.
So, Gretchen are you in a Jural Assembly? It seems to be that those with the titles of nobility are deeper into the de facto and more willing to accept the punishment of the Medical board or pseudo ethics board of the Big Pharma MD loop of the Josef Mengele school of Medicine. We thought it was coming from the BAR / military / LEO.
The Sheriff with a proper oath to the proper Constitutions with Laws of Nature and of Nature's God included, a de jure County Executive. The office of Sheriff must be occupied by a body, mind, spirit, flesh, blood, soul man or woman with their bona fides in order in the de jure original jurisdiction of jura summi imperii.
Yes! We, meaning all of us, should be opposed to the de facto ( page 416 Black's 6th de jure is defined also ) as it is illegal or illegitimate. It self corrects when the Sheriff takes a proper oath to the proper Constitutions with God included. When that office is occupied by a de jure man or woman then law instead of color of law will move across the land and soil. www.orsja.org
What you suggest is altogether too fair and beneficial. Thieves and murderers that run the world would have to change their minds and hearts, and evil couldn't rule the world. You prove there is still hope for the modern world, although "warriors" would need to be on standby to root out the unethical for keeps. We would probably still need regional judges in case any babes need to be cut in half. Self-governance would be more than some could endure, but maybe humanity could just grow up a little.
are you familiar with MATRIX-8 ?
https://peakd.com/hive-153630/@atma.love/diy-matrix-8-first-platform
Yes, and I have issues with it. First it speaks of "democratically" doing things, which I do not support - two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner - and second, it retains power tokens (where Some will have more power than Others, able to buy things and People to Their agenda(s) if They garner enough in some way).
Any such system is a psychopath's delight.
so, there's no voting in solutocracy ?
There's working together to solve problems, and if "voting" amongst the Ones working on the problem is the best way to determine the most acceptable solution, then yes. Is there voting on things that define "rules" that Others must follow, no.
in matrix-8, groups of 8 individuals discuss "a problem" and come to some consensus, then elect one member of the 8 to represent their "solution" or "additional critique" - - THEN - - those level 1 electors move to a level 2 group of 8 which represents 64 individuals - - and so on up the chain - - 64X8 (512) for level 3 - - and 512X8 (4,096) for level 4 - - 32,768 for level 5 - - 262,144 for level 6 - - 2,097,152 for level 7 - - 17 million for level 8
it sounds a lot like your solutocracy to me
I hint at/envision something similar in Article IV, X here: https://christophercook.substack.com/p/human-constitution
I do not think that a defining structure needs to be in place but that all problems must be solved for Ethically by Those who care. If only three People care, why have eight People working on it?
The problem I see with any "constitution" is that it assumes application to everyOne in some area, be it a square block or the planet.
If someOne does not consent, then what?
With a solutocracy, the only "assumptions" are that We are All under the Laws of Ethics (Natural Law), and that People who are affected by a problem can Ethically resolve it.
Ridding society of the need to account for Our energy will solve most of the problems to begin with, so that is My main focus.
I suppose it might be, but that there is no formal structure, and only includes the Ones who care...
o.k... let's try an example of Your problem solving system. A local terrorist group has formed that is destroying property and abusing and assaulting women and children. The local group has several hundred members and there are many partner groups emerging in other communities. They are all run by miserable bastards driven solely by hate and the lust for power and domination.
The problem has been reported locally, regionally and nationally. .. what are we going to do?
just for a brief moment,
imagine you are one of these terrorists
i know it's difficult
but try to, for the tiniest speck of time
just try and imagine what they might be thinking
what do you think causes "terrorism" ?
the ones that rape women and children don't think, they rage
The etymology of "villain" can be traced back to the Old French word "vilain," which originally meant a peasant or a commoner. Over time, the term evolved to refer to someone who was considered morally reprehensible or wicked.
literally "someone born in a villa"
so, you have no other ideas ?
just "terrorists" are unthinking animals ?
I have plenty of other ideas but this is not a contest and I sense you think it is.
ok, if you don't care to share any of your "plenty of other ideas"
i guess i can pretend they're really interesting and insightful
Why would One rage when One can live as richly as One chooses, and everyOne is aware of the Laws, which preclude that behavior? And the Ones who do that in this poverty-filled world are statistically insignificant... Surely the rest of Us can solve for the problem of One breaking the Laws.
First... Why would this group form, when everyOne is living as richly as They choose? Why would anyOne follow anyOne unEthical? And if, by some crazy fluke, miserable bastards get enough People willing to be unEthical at Their order (I will doubt that would ever happen in a trillion years...), the rest of Us would stand against the Few and perhaps have a skirmish that would arrest any unEthical Ones, or kill Them if They attack...
But I'm willing to guess We would not have to worry about that.
I'm totally on board with the intention of your proposals. A moneyless system would be far better than the slave system we endure today. But many will not be happy about it. The elite that now benefit from the control system for one. The ones who believe their skill, or fame, or lineage, or whatever, makes them better than common people and therefore more deserving of a superior exclusive lifestyle for another.
Also, there will still be people who have been hurt by others, lovers who get ditched by their partners who desire someone else, people who hold grudges because things didn't go their way, or inter-generational feuds that perpetuate harm, or simply assholes who create havoc because they can't get along with others. All I am saying is that problems will exist as long as human beings exist. To believe in Utopia is foolish.
The useless ELiters are about 0.1% of Us. The Ones who have excellent output will earn fame, lauds, reputation. And those who believe They are "better" again is a small fraction. And Most would likely not choose unEthical behavior...
And yes, there always will be interpersonal issues - but even today, the problems caused where no money is involved is statistically zero.
I never claimed what I suggest is a utopia. There surely always will be problems. But it is leaps, bounds, and wormhole trips better than what We have Now, and as it is founded on Ethically solving for problems...the problems will be Ethically solved for.
Bless you for trying to do the "right" thing. Unfortunately the vast majority of people can not imagine such a society and hence will not support this idea.
Again, I point out, the key is to get free energy tech out in the open. No One has to do anything. 100% of the cost of EVERYTHING is energy. The resources sit here freely, but it takes energy to put them into useful configuration. Add free energy and the price of things will begin to drop as the cost of energy is removed all down the line.
In about 10 years, I estimate, it will be more energy than it's worth to collect the penny for the house (or whatever).
And I will say for sure, once things start costing less, People will develop support for the idea.
First... because Evil exists and will continue to exist whenever people are rejected. If social praise rewards good behaviour in an Ethical society then social criticism and rejection will stimulate Evil behaviour.
So there will still be police and weapons to deal with anti-socialists?
When the psychopaths have no more power than You or Me, how will They affect this "evil" (or as I say, unEthical behavior)? And what police? Organized by whom? And yes, as I say, We had best presume Others armed. As We, Ourselves can be.
Did You know that the cities in the "wild west" where there were no gun restrictions had far less crime that comparable cities in terms of population and industry on the east coast, where They had "gun laws?"
I am not seeing where "social criticism and rejection will stimulate Evil behaviour." 90%+ of Us are good and caring People, and the Few who don't add Betterment, who are grumpy and nasty, deserve any criticism if They are rude to Others. They deserve to be rejected.
I do not like it and would never pay you.
pretty deep reasoning ron... way to go
Our benevolent form of martial law with a pretend adherence to our Constitutions created the best form of governance on the planet for decades. The BAR attorneys and Bankers from London started this greedy, power hungry malevolent governance we have. That dates to before Rothschild that perfected this evil.
Had it not turned to malevolent we would have remained like frogs in the pan of water. I did until 2014 and the US Navy determined I was very smart at 18. Not so much anymore. It was thought that the force for the malevolent takeover would come from the military and judiciary. It appears to be coming from the medical adherents to the Josef Mengele School of medicine.
On Oregon the fix by the Esquires, many were attorneys, like Frank Benson that corrupted our Oregon Constitution in 1910. When, ARTICLE VII (Amended) was added, unlawfully, to the Constitution. I’m told not all members of the Oregon State Bar know this. The OSB confers the title of nobility, Esquire, to its members. ARTICLE VII (Amended) is the Judiciary clause the judges and attorneys use to defraud the people. It could be that some Sheriffs and police are unaware of this deception. I’m told that some legislators do not know of this fraud upon the people. Many do not even know what a lawful oath and bond of office is.
LEOs ask for legal help from attorneys and judges and get mis and dis information. They are the ones that are aware of the misprision of felony and they continue to perpetrate this evil on us after 113 years. Although, we know the fix was in from the time of Lincoln. The powers that be on Oregon from 1860 corrupted our government when they agreed to the fraud of Matthew Deady and his two state authorized books, containing the lie that Amendment XIII the anti title of nobility amendment was not part of our statehood documents. Doctor, Mister, Gentlemen, Sir, Lady, Lord and Esquire are all titles of nobility not just honorifics. But, it is homage to the British royalty and nobility a deference to our betters. Did you think it was just being polite like you were taught?
So there it is! They are the two major frauds upon the people both to the advantage of the BAR (British Accreditation Registry) the attorneys of the Oregon State Bar and their ilk on Oregon. The people, our Sheriffs, Legislators and others say, “let me ask my attorney.” The fraud is perpetuated. Unfettered advice from Counsel does not include Oregon State Bar members. As, they all have an oath to an ARTICLE VII (Amended) Court. They are registered or unregistered foreign agents. It’s complicated and people turn off and consider important issues. What is for dinner, is the football game on? Our churches become 501 C3 and give their allegiance to the state before God and their congregation. And so it goes.
this is a phenomenal description of where we find ourselves
but are you really opposed to improving that system ?
Yes! We, meaning all of us, should be opposed to the de facto ( page 416 Black's 6th de jure is defined also ) as it is illegal or illegitimate. It self corrects when the Sheriff takes a proper oath to the proper Constitutions with God included. When that office is occupied by a de jure man or woman then law instead of color of law will move across the land and soil. www.orsja.org
This is Notice of your Liability for your deceitful agreements and collusion with the now-bankrupt and defunct UNITED STATES, INC. Your corruption deceives, misleads and defrauds the people – the men, women with their progeny — of their lawful God -given rights! NOTICE OF LIABILITY added to the “Documents-Trials and Oregon Statewide Jural Assembly Court
www.orsja.org
It Is Generational, my 2 oldest daughters were born in the 50's they comprehend that deception of JFK, RFK, MLK. Both of of my daughters seem to accept the lesser of two evils. I do not, nor do I accept any infringement upon my unalienable rights. I have a BAR attorney Granddaughter that will only speak with me about her daughters.
So, Gretchen are you in a Jural Assembly? It seems to be that those with the titles of nobility are deeper into the de facto and more willing to accept the punishment of the Medical board or pseudo ethics board of the Big Pharma MD loop of the Josef Mengele school of Medicine. We thought it was coming from the BAR / military / LEO.
The Sheriff with a proper oath to the proper Constitutions with Laws of Nature and of Nature's God included, a de jure County Executive. The office of Sheriff must be occupied by a body, mind, spirit, flesh, blood, soul man or woman with their bona fides in order in the de jure original jurisdiction of jura summi imperii.
Yes! We, meaning all of us, should be opposed to the de facto ( page 416 Black's 6th de jure is defined also ) as it is illegal or illegitimate. It self corrects when the Sheriff takes a proper oath to the proper Constitutions with God included. When that office is occupied by a de jure man or woman then law instead of color of law will move across the land and soil. www.orsja.org
[shrug] Yours to choose.