I agree about govtards. The one I trusted well still trust for as far as that goes only handles what I call softball issues. He won't make waves that way, I guess feels safe. Funny, he was shot at a softball game. If we do have free energy will money really be irrelevant? Think of things they put a sales tax on. Food, for me tropical fish, for others clothes. I think money will still figure in. Not as importantly to be sure, but it will be there.
Except... 100% of the cost of EVERYTHING is energy. The resources sit here freely, but it takes energy to put them into useful configuration. Add free energy and accounting for that energy becomes pointless.
Add free energy tech and the cost of things will begin to drop as the cost of energy is removed. In about 10 years' time, it will get to the point where collecting that penny for the house (or whatever) is more energy than it's worth.
In the meantime, when the robots become affordable, We can develop robots for the needed work no One wants to do. And it will come to be that accounting for Our energy added will be ancient history.
I can follow your train of thought, maybe I'm too old school to understand how commodities are energy. I do know that the worker expends a lot, having been one for ten or more years. My theoretical mind DOES understand, then the critical thinker says what? I must be missing something.
I think that I have it, when I spent over a year living in Penn. Station (those giant tubes) money meant nothing. Yes, I understand now. Sort of a spartan living at first, but doable.
It's not that commodities are energy but that it took energy to get them in a position/condition to be useful. For example, a wild field of cantaloupe will just sit there if We do nothing, add no energy. If We add the energy of picking them and transporting them, they become useful to anyOne hungry.
When the only Ones/ones picking and transporting canteloupe are People who LOVE to do that and robots.... No money is needed to get the work done.
I agree about govtards. The one I trusted well still trust for as far as that goes only handles what I call softball issues. He won't make waves that way, I guess feels safe. Funny, he was shot at a softball game. If we do have free energy will money really be irrelevant? Think of things they put a sales tax on. Food, for me tropical fish, for others clothes. I think money will still figure in. Not as importantly to be sure, but it will be there.
Except... 100% of the cost of EVERYTHING is energy. The resources sit here freely, but it takes energy to put them into useful configuration. Add free energy and accounting for that energy becomes pointless.
Add free energy tech and the cost of things will begin to drop as the cost of energy is removed. In about 10 years' time, it will get to the point where collecting that penny for the house (or whatever) is more energy than it's worth.
In the meantime, when the robots become affordable, We can develop robots for the needed work no One wants to do. And it will come to be that accounting for Our energy added will be ancient history.
I can follow your train of thought, maybe I'm too old school to understand how commodities are energy. I do know that the worker expends a lot, having been one for ten or more years. My theoretical mind DOES understand, then the critical thinker says what? I must be missing something.
I think that I have it, when I spent over a year living in Penn. Station (those giant tubes) money meant nothing. Yes, I understand now. Sort of a spartan living at first, but doable.
It's not that commodities are energy but that it took energy to get them in a position/condition to be useful. For example, a wild field of cantaloupe will just sit there if We do nothing, add no energy. If We add the energy of picking them and transporting them, they become useful to anyOne hungry.
When the only Ones/ones picking and transporting canteloupe are People who LOVE to do that and robots.... No money is needed to get the work done.
Okay it's making more sense to me.
Glad to clarify!