I love your stories! Well I've lived off banking for several years and I take what people abandon so I don't know if you call that stealing but I believe that things need to be used. For example, I took a cart that was rotting away in a yard of a foreclosed home that was left idle for several years. It came in so handy for me who's a gardener. That's another ethical breach, to hoard and not use things. Imagine if we just passed on what we don't use and then when we need something, it will be passed on to us. This is the natural flow. But I did actually steal some candy too once when me and my innocent girlfriend hung out with a "bad element" friend in our neighborhood. We had what we called in Australia the "milk bar" (sounds so quaint now) these were small community general stores where you could get milk shakes hence the term. We stole some coke bottles from the back of their shop, and handed them in to get a deposit on each. The reason for the theft was so I could pay to get in to the swimming pool because my parents forbade me to go when I asked. Needless to say we got caught and my girlfriend got into trouble but my father, who was a strict authoritarian, didn't chastise me. I asked him why and he said because he knows I'm not a thief! He knew I did it because I was with the girl who was wayward in our neighborhood. I never felt guilt about it.
I love your sister saying that you didn't steal it because it was only a little thing and stealing doesn't apply for little things. That's really cute.
It wasn’t My sister. It was the sister of one of the other boys playing hockey. My sister probably has not even stolen three (or four) penny candies. Haha.
Love that you smacked that puck like a pro at 9 years old! How ethical is it to tell girls they're not supposed to be healthy and play sports? My parents were also strict like that but as a wee child I could see their hypocrisy a mile away. I still believe you're correct that if you want to stay ethical, you'll not lie, cheat, steal, murder, etc. but these things can and should be seen in context. If your family is starving and you haven't got a penny, you know, that sort of thing. I like Ragna Raven's example as well. There's a such thing as being stubbornly rule oriented without flexibility/love for yourself and others - being strict easily slides into a certain kind of violence in my mind.
Well, You must grasp the era We were in and from whence My mom came. It was not a matter of Ethics, as She was not trying to do harm. Just giving Her perspective. And if I wanted exercise, I could do yoga, or walk around the block a few times, or other such activities.
As for desperation, yes, it is unEthical to steal, but it is in the consequences that the measure is seen.
Very few would mete, say, life in prison, for stealing food to feed a family. Most likely it will be a "Shame on You" and everyOne moves on. I did this video a while ago...
I'm from the same "era" so I know, absolutely from whence the parents were coming from. As I said, I was taught similarly. Except yoga was not an option in my mining town life. We did, however, have girls sports so I don't know what was going on with you all there and why you think walking around the block a few times is an adequate response to the banning of girls from sports.
I say I saw my parents' hypocrisy but I didn't hate them for it. I understood THEY were also only doing what they were told. I didn't have the capacity, then, to see that but only realized it was hypocrisy when I had the language and still, I didn't blame them as we were Catholics and Catholics are forbidden to think critically because then they would hold priests and the other bejewelled and be-dressed and hatted to account for their constant sins and hatred of anything female.
I'm a little confused with how you treat the idea of stealing to survive as a "shame on you" event and then move on? Then again, I'm having one of those days where nothing makes real sense to me. I'll have a look at the littering, thanks.
There were "girls' sports" in high school, but volleyball and balance beam did not come close to hockey! LOL!
In essence, the unEthical behavior of sealing food to feed the family is a "light sentence" crime, while stealing money from anOther would likely get a harsher sentence. I offer this for how We would handle the breaking of the (three) Laws in a society of Ethical sovereigns:
Oh - thank you for the clarification - I understand. I agree balance beam and volleyball don't come close to hockey but volleyball is pretty great too!
We all face peer pressure as children...and can be talked into doing something we shouldn't. and have no desire to do. When I was eleven, Two girls talked me into taking things from a 5 & 10 that I didn't want...or ever use. My father found out and walked my legs off for hours....telling me how wrong it was...I knew instinctively it was wrong without him telling me.. After this one other time, at thirteen i had no money and needed a bathing suit. I took one from store...and I felt very guilty...I never did it again. Six years later, I got a job working at this store over the Christmas holidays...and spent every dollar I made at the store buying clothes for my brothers. I knew that I had to make restitution!
When one does something wrong, one has to make restitution. In about 1958, I was in the parking lot of a grocery store...and at that time was into smoking. I thoughtlessly dumped the cigarette trash container on the ground. I felt very guilty, after doing this...and some years later spent several hours on Saturday and Sunday on two weekends picking up cigarette butts. I did stop smoking in 1960 for 8 years, then a doctor suggested that I smoke, because i didn't smoke, didn't drink and didn't chew gum...he said it would help me relax. Well, I learned that it wipes energy out - It doesn't help people to relax. I quit in 1973 and never went back to smoking.
Indeed, an Ethical consequence is the price for breaking the Laws. Some - like psychopaths - will not be interested in making restitution. But We surely can mete ethical consequences.
Sweet! (-: When children do it it is sweet! I actually just came back after going out for a meal. I was very, very hungry and needed something really filling like a steak since I haven´t eaten anything substantial for a couple of days. I came to a place where they had chicken but no steak. OK I´ll make do with that then, I said to myself and the waitress. A caesar salad. She arrived with a bowl filled with croutons, precisely 4 leaves of salad and 5 pieces of deep fried chicken which were cold and looked like something I won´t mention. It was topped with some cheese and no more. I looked at it and the 4 leaves of salad stared back at me. The croutons were brick like and difficult to swallow. I ate the 4 leaves and some of the chicken, and went inside to have a talk with the waitress. Look, I came here because I was hungry like a wolf, what is this?? Oh, you wish to pay? No, I will not pay for this I replied. I am still 96% hungry, do you really think this is worth paying for? She was visibly shaken but replied: No, I understand you, you need not pay. I left. Not to come back.
I can´t believe this happened! And am still hungry but feel good about not saying yes and amen when some cartoon dish is served. Ethical behavior must be reciprocated. If not, it is theft.
I meant to say that I expected to be given what I ordered. She did give me that, granted, but she should not have served it since it was so poor in quality. I find that to be unethical since she should have known better. I would have paid her had she not stolen both my trust and my time.
I love your stories! Well I've lived off banking for several years and I take what people abandon so I don't know if you call that stealing but I believe that things need to be used. For example, I took a cart that was rotting away in a yard of a foreclosed home that was left idle for several years. It came in so handy for me who's a gardener. That's another ethical breach, to hoard and not use things. Imagine if we just passed on what we don't use and then when we need something, it will be passed on to us. This is the natural flow. But I did actually steal some candy too once when me and my innocent girlfriend hung out with a "bad element" friend in our neighborhood. We had what we called in Australia the "milk bar" (sounds so quaint now) these were small community general stores where you could get milk shakes hence the term. We stole some coke bottles from the back of their shop, and handed them in to get a deposit on each. The reason for the theft was so I could pay to get in to the swimming pool because my parents forbade me to go when I asked. Needless to say we got caught and my girlfriend got into trouble but my father, who was a strict authoritarian, didn't chastise me. I asked him why and he said because he knows I'm not a thief! He knew I did it because I was with the girl who was wayward in our neighborhood. I never felt guilt about it.
If something is abandoned, it is not taking anything from anyOne…
And hoarding is not a problem on Our vastly abundant planet…
Very true.
I love your sister saying that you didn't steal it because it was only a little thing and stealing doesn't apply for little things. That's really cute.
It wasn’t My sister. It was the sister of one of the other boys playing hockey. My sister probably has not even stolen three (or four) penny candies. Haha.
Oh thank you. Your father taught you all well!
He was awesome!
Love that you smacked that puck like a pro at 9 years old! How ethical is it to tell girls they're not supposed to be healthy and play sports? My parents were also strict like that but as a wee child I could see their hypocrisy a mile away. I still believe you're correct that if you want to stay ethical, you'll not lie, cheat, steal, murder, etc. but these things can and should be seen in context. If your family is starving and you haven't got a penny, you know, that sort of thing. I like Ragna Raven's example as well. There's a such thing as being stubbornly rule oriented without flexibility/love for yourself and others - being strict easily slides into a certain kind of violence in my mind.
Well, You must grasp the era We were in and from whence My mom came. It was not a matter of Ethics, as She was not trying to do harm. Just giving Her perspective. And if I wanted exercise, I could do yoga, or walk around the block a few times, or other such activities.
As for desperation, yes, it is unEthical to steal, but it is in the consequences that the measure is seen.
Very few would mete, say, life in prison, for stealing food to feed a family. Most likely it will be a "Shame on You" and everyOne moves on. I did this video a while ago...
Why Littering is UnEthical (8 min): https://odysee.com/@amaterasusolar:8/why-littering-is-unethical:c?lid=eeff9e0c80138ce03e22d76bcd5f2f873ff46b72
I'm from the same "era" so I know, absolutely from whence the parents were coming from. As I said, I was taught similarly. Except yoga was not an option in my mining town life. We did, however, have girls sports so I don't know what was going on with you all there and why you think walking around the block a few times is an adequate response to the banning of girls from sports.
I say I saw my parents' hypocrisy but I didn't hate them for it. I understood THEY were also only doing what they were told. I didn't have the capacity, then, to see that but only realized it was hypocrisy when I had the language and still, I didn't blame them as we were Catholics and Catholics are forbidden to think critically because then they would hold priests and the other bejewelled and be-dressed and hatted to account for their constant sins and hatred of anything female.
I'm a little confused with how you treat the idea of stealing to survive as a "shame on you" event and then move on? Then again, I'm having one of those days where nothing makes real sense to me. I'll have a look at the littering, thanks.
There were "girls' sports" in high school, but volleyball and balance beam did not come close to hockey! LOL!
In essence, the unEthical behavior of sealing food to feed the family is a "light sentence" crime, while stealing money from anOther would likely get a harsher sentence. I offer this for how We would handle the breaking of the (three) Laws in a society of Ethical sovereigns:
The Society Of Ethical Sovereigns (SOES) Justice Way (article): https://amaterasusolar.substack.com/p/the-society-of-ethical-sovereigns
Oh - thank you for the clarification - I understand. I agree balance beam and volleyball don't come close to hockey but volleyball is pretty great too!
Not the worst, but I wanted to play hockey! LOL!
I hear you - we had ringette up in Northern Ontario. I ended up playing hockey in my early thirties with a group of men and women! I LOVED it!
We all face peer pressure as children...and can be talked into doing something we shouldn't. and have no desire to do. When I was eleven, Two girls talked me into taking things from a 5 & 10 that I didn't want...or ever use. My father found out and walked my legs off for hours....telling me how wrong it was...I knew instinctively it was wrong without him telling me.. After this one other time, at thirteen i had no money and needed a bathing suit. I took one from store...and I felt very guilty...I never did it again. Six years later, I got a job working at this store over the Christmas holidays...and spent every dollar I made at the store buying clothes for my brothers. I knew that I had to make restitution!
Indeed, We know when something is unEthical (“wrong”). It’s nice that You chose restitution!
Thank You for You payment of attention in reading!
When one does something wrong, one has to make restitution. In about 1958, I was in the parking lot of a grocery store...and at that time was into smoking. I thoughtlessly dumped the cigarette trash container on the ground. I felt very guilty, after doing this...and some years later spent several hours on Saturday and Sunday on two weekends picking up cigarette butts. I did stop smoking in 1960 for 8 years, then a doctor suggested that I smoke, because i didn't smoke, didn't drink and didn't chew gum...he said it would help me relax. Well, I learned that it wipes energy out - It doesn't help people to relax. I quit in 1973 and never went back to smoking.
Indeed, an Ethical consequence is the price for breaking the Laws. Some - like psychopaths - will not be interested in making restitution. But We surely can mete ethical consequences.
Sweet! (-: When children do it it is sweet! I actually just came back after going out for a meal. I was very, very hungry and needed something really filling like a steak since I haven´t eaten anything substantial for a couple of days. I came to a place where they had chicken but no steak. OK I´ll make do with that then, I said to myself and the waitress. A caesar salad. She arrived with a bowl filled with croutons, precisely 4 leaves of salad and 5 pieces of deep fried chicken which were cold and looked like something I won´t mention. It was topped with some cheese and no more. I looked at it and the 4 leaves of salad stared back at me. The croutons were brick like and difficult to swallow. I ate the 4 leaves and some of the chicken, and went inside to have a talk with the waitress. Look, I came here because I was hungry like a wolf, what is this?? Oh, you wish to pay? No, I will not pay for this I replied. I am still 96% hungry, do you really think this is worth paying for? She was visibly shaken but replied: No, I understand you, you need not pay. I left. Not to come back.
I can´t believe this happened! And am still hungry but feel good about not saying yes and amen when some cartoon dish is served. Ethical behavior must be reciprocated. If not, it is theft.
There is a difference between willfully stealing and getting less than bargained for and agreeing that no payment is required.
Not following the last bit… “Ethical behavior must be reciprocated. If not, it is theft.” We choose Our behaviors…
I meant to say that I expected to be given what I ordered. She did give me that, granted, but she should not have served it since it was so poor in quality. I find that to be unethical since she should have known better. I would have paid her had she not stolen both my trust and my time.
An excellent plan to live by! Thank you for the heartfelt story Amaterasu.
🙏🏻 💜 🙏🏻 I am humbled in Your payment of appreciation! I am enriched!
The satanists are rife with psychopaths, whether primary (born that way) or secondary (conditioned).
Thank You for Your payment of appreciation! I am enriched!